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19 November 2008 @ 11:40 am
Victorian Education Ultranet  
Ultranet Tender Media ReleaseFrom:     Donna Benjamin
To:          ultranet@edumail.vic.gov.au
Cc:         The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List, rodney gedda,
Subject:     Selective Tender for Ultranet
Date:     Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:36:13 +1100

I note with interest the release of a selective tender for Ultranet with revised specifications. It is disappointing to see that Moodle, an Open Source, Australian developed learning management system already in use in many Victorian schools and widely used around the world, is not included.

 1. Was Moodle considered or consulted in the independent market sounding exercise?

 2. If Moodle was considered, why was it not included in the selective request for tender? What were the specific reasons for its exclusion from the new request for tender?

 3. Otherwise, why was Moodle not considered or consulted in the independent market sounding exercise?

I look forward to a prompt response. Any constructive and useful criticism of Moodle will be taken back to the development community who may be able to improve and further develop the product for the global user base.

yours sincerely,
Donna Benjamin

Donna Benjamin
President - Linux Users of Victoria - http://www.luv.asn.au
Education Spokesperson - Open Source Victoria - http://www.osv.org.au/
Member - Open Source Industry Australia -  http://osia.net.au
Executive Director - Creative Contingencies -  http://cc.com.au

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Diary of a B+ Grade Polymathtcpip on November 19th, 2008 01:24 am (UTC)
Jebus... Blackboard *shudder*
(Anonymous) on November 19th, 2008 10:25 am (UTC)
Remember the Ultranet is also about IT services. Why is there no Australian based IT company allowed to bid?

What does Blackboard know about hosting?
Julien Goodwinlaptop006 on November 20th, 2008 01:39 am (UTC)
Don't go there.

I work for what must be Australia's largest provider of this sort of thing, it's a mess.
plakboekplakboek on November 20th, 2008 12:28 pm (UTC)
Odd tender process?
Somebody has some serious questions to ask.
Time to rattle the tree to see what fruit falls out.
(Anonymous) on November 23rd, 2008 04:40 am (UTC)
I would be asking Moodle themselves, was there an expression of interest released so interested parties could respond thereby enabling themselves to be requested to respond to the actual tender.

Government can only shortlist responders based on a response prior to a tender being released otherwise it must be open to all parties who want to respond
(Anonymous) on November 27th, 2008 10:56 pm (UTC)

did you get an answer on the whole tender process, was there an EOI issued for Moodle to respond too, did they???
kattekrabkattekrab on November 28th, 2008 03:08 am (UTC)
I just called http://www.moodle.com.au - Apparently they didn't submit a tender response to the initial call, because they couldn't deliver ALL of the requirements of the tender document - and there was some uncertainty in the market at the time as to whether a consortium approach would be acceptable. They would certainly be willing to partner with Oracle.

I'm waiting for someone from http://www.netspot.com.au to get back to me.

This is the response from the Ultranet Team:

"The Ultranet will be implemented as an enterprise solution and the
successful vendor will adopt an enterprise approach to intranet

Moodle was assessed and was not a close enough fit against the
Department's requirements for the Ultranet project. Therefore Moodle
was not suitable for this selective tender.

The market has already had the opportunity to respond to an open Request
for Tender. The Department released an Ultranet Request for Tender in
August 2007 and completed the tender evaluation process without being
able to select a successful tenderer."
kattekrabkattekrab on November 28th, 2008 03:46 am (UTC)
oh - have also just looked at Oracle's Enterprise Learning Management System - PeopleSoft.


kattekrabkattekrab on November 28th, 2008 06:44 am (UTC)

"CASES21 is a customised version of the Maze school software system marketed commercially by RM Asia-Pacific."
(Anonymous) on November 30th, 2008 12:05 am (UTC)
Sounds to me like the moodle group didn't have the prior history of large scale successful implementations to have eanred the stripes of being involved in such a large high visibility project.

With the EOI, they would have been able to ask the contact person from the department whether a consirtium bid would be accepted. It would have been up to th depatment to validate or not the question, not the "market"

From what I am hearing it sounded like they just weren't ready to play in this space just yet. It seems like they need a professional bid manager who has played in this arena before

Just a few thoughts based on what I have experienced and witnessed